Going Out, Staying In With Dan Pope

Towards the end of our conversation with Dan Pope, he pauses for a second, laughs, and says, “I feel like I’ve just been talking about drinking and going out.” It’s a slight exaggeration – we’ve covered everything from building model railways in his grandad’s back garden as a boy to his time living and working in China and Pakistan – but, he’s right: we’ve also spent a lot of time on his love of pubs, bars and clubs. As he sits up from his deep, comfy-looking sofa he corrects himself, looking more assured: “But I love it. A cold beer and a cigarette at the end of the day… goosebumps! Going to the pub is like going to church for me.”
Community, togetherness, a sense of being with your tribe: these are the things Dan found in nightlife venues across Berlin when he moved there after completing his undergraduate degree in architecture at the Bartlett. “I came out quite late, towards the end of my degree, so going to Berlin, meeting people, experiencing the nightlife, swimming in the lakes, something clicked,” he tells us. What, exactly? “I felt at home there and found people that I really care about, and I did it in spaces that are given over to leisure and nightlife. I discovered who I was, but also realised the importance of nightclubs, and why protecting them is so important,” he says.


Back in London, after a “much more fun” master’s course, also at the Bartlett, and while working at THISS Studio, something clicked again. This time it was prompted by a friend who needed help turning a pop-up lesbian bar into a permanent bricks-and-mortar space. “I said that I’d do anything to be involved,” Dan recalls. His architectural training, his newly found community and his belief in the importance of nightlife spaces came together in one project. “In collaboration with WET Studio, we made La Camionera over three months with predominantly queer, trans and female tradespeople. It was such a rewarding experience, with a real DIY spirit. I just knew after doing it I wanted more and more,” he says.
And more he got. Leaving THISS Studio to set up Studio Popelo a year and a half ago, Dan has since landed the renovation of two pubs, one in New Cross and one in Canonbury, as well as a new ballet-themed bar in Dalston, combining raw natural materials, mirrors, bespoke metalwork and an infinite screen installation. At the pubs, there will be stained glass panels showing “vivacious characters gorging on food and drink items from the menu.” As he goes into more detail about his plans for “mosaics, tons of artwork, crazy patterns, loads of different materials coming together,” it becomes clear that what he has in mind is far removed from the heritage paint colours, studded leather banquettes and exposed brick of the standard pub-refurbishment playbook. “The narrative is that pubs are closing down, hospitality is on its knees. It is, but there’s also a really exciting undercurrent of new places with a very different attitude. We’re bringing beautiful buildings back to life with a design ethos that is taking what is familiar about a pub, really celebrating that, but then adding something which is quite fun, maybe a bit sexy, maybe has a hidden message somewhere,” he explains, becoming more animated as he does so.




Hospitality spaces are Popelo’s main focus (Dan chose the name of the studio with the hope of opening his own venue one day in mind), but he’s also taken on a few residential projects for selected clients – “My projects are always super personal,” he explains. At a house renovation in Margate for his friend and collaborator, Ele Ward, that meant foraging for seaweed with her on the coastline, and then commissioning local artists to create soft furnishings. “The studio is about cultivating feeling. I’m interested in the question of how we can feel closer to a place?”
So, how has he created that here, at his flat on the southern edge of Victoria Park? “At home I have lots of things that tell stories as most of the art and objects are by friends, but I generally keep it quieter, more stripped back,” Dan says. “Home for me is calm, an escape.” The flat is particularly well-suited to those needs, with the main bedroom and living room opening onto balconies overlooking the canal and, beyond it, the greenery of the park. In summer, mornings begin with coffee on the balcony spotting turtles, “surprisingly large fish” and abandoned Lime bikes in the water before Dan heads to his studio on Shacklewell Lane. “Being north facing actually suits me because I get a bit of morning sun and then I’m out all day,” he says. As we come to expect by this point in the conversation, Dan enjoys the place most in the evening, when it gets dark. “I want it to feel like a spa. I flood the place with incense so it smells like a Greek church, have the light really low and just bliss out,” he describes.




But come on, we can’t believe that someone as committed to going out and being with friends treats his home like a hermit’s cave! No, he doesn’t. In fact, it was precisely how the proportions of the space lent themselves to hosting that drew Dan in the first place. “I’d always lived with skinny living rooms where everyone has to sit in a row, so having a space where you can have the sofa and two armchairs opposite makes it much more social,” he says. Days often end with takeaways and TV, eaten with friends on the sofa, while weekends see pre-drinks around the coffee table, and friends sleeping on the couch when the night is done.




Now that he has made his home his sanctuary and is a little older, is he less interested in going out than he once was? “I’d say I’m going out more now than ever, and I’ve never enjoyed it more than I have this summer,” he says. “And not just out out. I love spending time in pubs. There is a magic to them; every time you go into one you find something new,” he says, now on the balcony and giving his plants a quick watering. It’s a Friday and he tells us that, after we’re done, he’s off to the pub he’s renovating in New Cross, where he’ll check in on progress and then go for a beer. After that, who knows. It’s an image that sums him up well: happily occupied in the domesticity of tending to his plants, but very much looking forward to seeing what the night brings.











































